Archive for January, 2009

It’s Not What You Said, It’s What They Heard That Matters

Shari FrisingerThis week’s interview is with Shari Frisinger, President of CornerStone Strategies, LLC. Shari is a dynamic, energetic Type A personality that has learned over the years to view failure as a success stepping stone and friction and conflict as opportunities to expand her horizons.  Not one to hold back, she achieved her Black Belt in TaeKwonDo in two short years, and her Masters in Aeronautical Science, with no formal aviation background, in a short 27 months.  A keynote speaker, trainer, coach, consultant and blogger, her topics focus on clear communications, “captainitis” and reducing frustrating friction.

Have you ever felt like you lost a little of who you are while trying to conform to a work culture? Have you ever wondered how to quickly find the decision maker in the room?  Have you ever felt like introductions at networking events are boring?  If so, read on.  Shari’s advice touches on all kinds of workplace tips that can sharpen your game.

LISA: Most professionals have heard of an elevator speech.  You give it a new twist by facing the reality that a stranger might be thinking “so what, who cares.”  How can we get started in crafting an introduction that feels more relevant to our audience?

SHARI: Craft an introduction that feels more like a conversation with a headline … start with a powerful fact or question.  That will get your listener’s attention for two reasons:  it immediately connects them to you and they are expecting the typical “Hi My name is ….. my company is …. We do …”so it is a jolt to the routine.

Follow it up with one or two supporting statements that they can easily relate to.  Then your name, company name and tag line or powerful last statement.   Most people start with their name and their company … put the focus on themselves.  Your elevator speech, to be effective, needs to be about the other person – how and why they need what you offer.

LISA: You wrote an article on asking questions to build rapport.  How can we use questions to better connect with new people in our networks?

SHARI: Asking questions shows interest in and respect for the other person.  It’s also a great way to learn about things we don’t regularly hear about and expand our boundaries.  Questions such as:  why is that? Why not? How so?  Really? What does that mean?  What would the result be?  What did you mean when you said …? [be careful in asking this that you are not sounding defensive or accusatory].  You can even repeat one or two of their words in a question format – words that seems to resonate with them.

Nearly every closed question can be rephrased to an open question: “How was your evening?” Can be changed to “What did you do last night?”  “How are you?” can be modified to “What’s the most exciting [or best] thing that happened to you today [or recently]?”  Any question that keeps the other person talking and keeps you both engaged is the perfect one to use.

To ensure what you heard is what they said, you can ask “Are you saying …”, “If I heard you correctly …. is that correct?”  Look at it this way, showing interest in the other person may generate business.  It can be the beginning of a new friendship or business relationship.  They will think very highly of you because you listened to them by asking them questions.  You may even help them solve a nagging problem!

LISA: How can teams better identify each others’ strengths and play to them?

SHARI: Realize that we have our own strengths and the value in teaming with others whose strengths are our weaknesses.

There are several ways to identify strengths:  in a meeting, look at the interactions between team members.  Who talks the most?  Who takes charge?  Who is quiet and consistently takes detailed notes?  Who asks the detailed questions?  The people that ask ‘why?’ are generally technical or subject matter experts.  They deal with facts, figures and information.  The people that ask ‘when?’ are task and bottom-line oriented; they are the ones that will take charge of the meeting.  Those that ask ‘who?’ like to be in a group of people and want to know who they will be associating with.  Those that ask ‘what?’ will perform the bulk of the work, and will be sure nothing slips through the cracks.

No one enjoys doing things they don’t like to do or are not good at – whether it be detail work, energizing the team, taking the lead or staying low key and consistently doing what needs to be done.  High performing team members realize that diversity in team members’ thinking processes is critical to the success of the team, the company and even the individuals on the team.

LISA: You teach that what we say isn’t necessarily what the other person hears.  What are some ways to bring better clarity?

SHARI: We all know about active listening.  Active listening is really a misnomer – if you are active, you cannot be fully engaged and listening.   Yes we need to tune out distractions and yes we need to ask the questions.  We also need to paraphrase: mirrored thinking, reflective feelings or simplifying.

Perhaps the most under-utilized way to bring better clarity is to “tell your why” –  the reason you are asking.  Take a minute or two to explain yourself – what you’re thinking, what your perspective is, the path your mind has taken you to get to you to where you currently are, your thought process:  give some background so your listener understands where you are coming from and your perspective.

For example, you are in a meeting discussing the merits of a proposed change.  Someone says “we tried that before and it didn’t work.”  Seems like a closed discussion.  If you try and force your decision, a heated discussion could ensue, or frustration on hitting a brick wall.  If the other person would add why it didn’t work, a meaningful discussion could develop, resulting in a brainstorming session and greater clarity of both communication and thought processes.

LISA: Many MBAs fear failure.  We’re high achievers or perfectionists.  Give us an example of a failure that turned into an invaluable life lesson.

SHARI: Many years ago I was approached by a local training company to train for them.  Knowing I would have to go through quite a rigorous training schedule [attend their ‘how to give presentations’ session, attend the class, assist the full-fledged instructors several times, go through two competency tests, train with another wannabe instructor, solo train with a seasoned instructor watching, then ‘graduating’ and training on my own] would take approximately two years and my own company sales would suffer, I decided to give it a try.

After nearly a year of training, I passed the first competency test with flying colors.  On to the next part, which was to be certified to train one particular course.  During this section, the trainers were more adamant that trainees follow their ‘culture’ which included: how to stand, how to talk, how to smile, how to interact with the participants, how to walk, how much time to spend on preparing for each session, when to sit [never!] and when to drink [subtly and only on a break], how much time was allocated for each portion of the class and how to dress [formal suits, preferably with a skirt and not pants].

It also included knowing everything about the participants that they wrote on their initial forms and how to cut discussions short.  We were told to never ever go more than five minutes over time, and it was expected that instructors are in class at least one hour before class and stay for 30-60 minutes after class.  All in all, it amounted to about 25-30 hours per week of my own time I was donating.

It was shortly into this portion of the training program that I felt I had lost my ‘essence’, my personality.  I was much more constrained, felt less genuine and terrified I would not give the proper encouragement to the participant, or focus on the critical element of their talk.  During the preparation for the final training, I asked the master trainer a question to help me better understand how I could give a particular set of instructions in ‘their’ method.  He accused me of being defensive and wouldn’t answer my question.  During my review, I got zinged quite hard on that and they refused to let me train by myself.  I had to go through co-training at least one more time.   Reluctantly I agreed.  That was a huge mistake.  The stress manifested itself physically and mentally, plus my own company’s revenues continued to decline as I was spending more and more time ‘volunteering’ my time to this training company.  All of this was done without pay.

After co-training again, I was told I still was not good enough, and I would have to train at least once more, probably twice more [without pay] with a seasoned instructor sitting in the back of the room ‘grading’ me. In essence, I had failed again.   It was at this time that I realized I had sacrificed too much of my own core personality and I lost my confidence in my own abilities.  I decided I would not complete their training process.  I could never be the straight-laced instructor they needed.  I decided “I am who I am” – animated, high energy, excitable, not all-perfect and although cognizant of time not time-bound.

My uniqueness was the best part of me.  I need an environment where my enthusiasm and animation are appreciated – and welcomed.  It took me years, literally, to get “my style” back and have my true personality emerge.

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Thanks for the interview, Shari.  To read more about her, check out her company and her communications blog.

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Top 100 Global Business Schools in 2009

Today, the Financial Times released the 2009 rankings for MBA programs around the world.

Check out the article here.  Wharton and London Business School tied for #1.  There are some new ones like the Indian School of Business.

Which ones surprised you? What trends are the new entries making?

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Is Your Vision Really a Vision?

David LeeThis week, David Lee, a.k.a. Mr. Perspectives, offers us some thoughts on vision, strategy, and business relationships. He digs into change management and dialog as a way to celebrate our diversity as humans.

This stuff seems to come naturally to him as he offers workshops and presentations on using the power of perspective for both personal and organizational development. He also owns his own business, Strategic Perspectives, LLC.

LISA: Many MBAs are movers and shakers, so help us with change management. How can we drive the implementation of projects in a way that leaves users wanting to implement them?

DAVID: If you’ve waited till implementation to think about this, you have in most cases failed already or at least made the change process very difficult. I see this all the time. Management, an individual, or a small group of people come up with “a great idea” (and sometimes, it is), then plan its implementation, and present it to the users with enthusiasm, laying out the benefits, in a trusting and honest way, etc. as we are taught to do. But change doesn’t happen.

Here’s my guiding principle for change: the greater the involvement of those directly affected by the change, the greater their desire to implement it. Involve as many people as is possible from the very beginning, and increase the number continuously as it gets closer to implementation. Organizational change is by its nature a participatory event; keep it that way.

LISA: You speak professionally about balancing people, process, and technology. Which piece gets the least attention at work and why?

DAVID: The one that gets the least attention is the one that is the hardest. Everyone pays lots of attention to technology; vendors are happy to “help” us and for many, technology is sexy. Usually process is the next hardest; it’s still analytical in nature, particularly when you ignore roles. Dealing with the people leg of the three legged stool is usually where organizations fall down.

People are … well, people with all their diversity and complexity that is not completely understood. That said, I’ve worked with organizations that did pretty well in dealing with the people side of things and their “hard” area was process. You didn’t ask, but the key to this balance is understanding how people, process and technology integrate, paying attention to them together, much more than it is paying attention to them all individually.

LISA: Give us a few tips for strengthening relationships with customers.

DAVID: Only one is necessary, for all relationships that involve people, as individuals or in groups/organizations/companies. Suspend your own filters, embrace the diversity of people, try to understand the way the other person or group thinks, what their experiences are, what they want, who they are. Companies that can do this for their customers and in all their relationships, and keep that way of thinking, are successful.

LISA: When a person has a vision, yet they don’t know how to translate it, where should they start?

DAVID: Guess I would use slightly different terminology. For me, if you don’t know how to move toward your “vision”, then it really isn’t a vision, it’s a goal, an objective, or something else. The defining difference of a vision is that it is part of your soul; it is understood in ways that go beyond a person’s ability to express it. So, my advice is first meditate, analyze, research, etc. until you know you completely understand your vision, that it is a part of you. And you will know when that point is reached. At that point, you won’t need to ask where to start. You’ll know.

LISA: What’s your favorite story about a person who learned a great lesson from seeing things from differing viewpoints rather than just his or her own?

DAVID: Oh, that’s nearly an impossible question. I have a thousand stories and they illustrate different aspects of “the power of perspective.” A “great lesson” implies a time when a person experiences a paradigm shift. These are not the most important aspects of perspective, but one that seem to interest people. A story that illustrates that a great lesson doesn’t have to be a paradigm shift is this one I use.

I once had a senior manager as a client who was on top of the world. He continued to move up in the company management structure, loved the company, had the work-life balance he wanted, was admired by supervisors and employees, etc. Then his young son, an only child, died unexpectedly … overnight … while he was out of the country on business. Many people given this much of the story would finish it with some description of how he quit the “rat race” and got in touch with his true self, or something like that. Right?

Yes, he went through the grieving and the confusion like we all must, but he decided that where he was, was where he wanted to be. His goals didn’t change, his drive for professional advancement didn’t change, and his management style continued to evolve just as it had before. The difference for him after losing his son (and eventually his marriage because of the stress it put on them as partners) was an increase in his confidence, his faith, and his convictions. He became stronger, not different.

If you want to learn more, check out David’s website. You can even book him to speak at your next company event.

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Land Your Dream Job in 2009 – Part Two

Earlier in January, we found a hot button.  Apparently, we MBAs are running around annoying hiring managers and recruiters by ‘name dropping’ about our degrees during interviews.  In Part One of this series, we learned that we cause frustration when we re-use the same opener to most of our interview answers.

The offending opener is “When I was working on my MBA…”

Let’s be clear.  Stated once it’s not bad.  Stated ad nauseum, well, it makes them roll their eyes.

Nicole Gonzales, Principal Consultant at Inspired Talent has some tips for us.  Try these two simple openers to start your answers in the job interview:

  • “I worked on a project that involved…”
  • “I was tasked to identify a solution to…”

If the hiring manager asks for context, then you have free rein to share that it was while you were working on your MBA.

What are your tactical interview tips for 2009?  Post a comment and let us know your strategy.

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Are you High Performance, High Maintenance Manager?

Masters Of SuccessThis week’s interview is with Colleen Kettenhofen, a motivational speaker, author, former top sales producer, and workplace expert. She has appeared on The Today Show and Fox News, and has presented over 1,000 programs in 47 states and six countries. What a powerhouse for us to learn from!

By the way, she co-authored the book Masters of Success with the likes of Ken Blanchard, Jack Canfield, and John Christensen. If you manage people or want to in the future, take a look at her thoughts. She reinforces that our skill in working with people might just be the success factor that matters most.

As an expert on leadership and management skills, life balance, motivation, difficult people, and presentation skills, she has a lot of insight to share with us.

LISA: You speak to many audiences on the topic of life balance. How do you define life balance?
COLLEEN: I think there’s a fine line between working smart and being successful, and having an outside life. Whether that outside life consists of wonderful friends, family members, spending time with our beloved pets, enjoying a hobby, or most likely, all of the above.

LISA: Many of our MBA readers want to unplug more frequently, yet feel an achievement drive tugging in the opposite direction. How do you reconcile the two?
COLLEEN: For people to consistently perform well, they have to feel well. That also includes things like eating healthy most of the time, exercising, and having a passion for something outside of work. For example, I recently spent the day in Sedona, Arizona. It was on a Tuesday, and I could have felt guilty. But I’d been working very hard, and just seeing the snow on the towering red rocks was enough to “fill the well.” It increased my energy and renewed creativity. It made me more productive. I rarely do that. And I know not everyone can do that. But, even taking one day a week on the weekend to relax, not pay bills, not do any work, can help.

I’m seeing a trend where when I’m asked to speak on leadership and managing people, the person hiring me wants me to add something from my website on life balance. For example, many people want me to include information such as the top brain foods for boosting mental acuity and productivity, the top things you can do to reduce depression and increasing energy. Leadership and life balance, especially in this economy, is hotter than ever.

LISA: You also speak a lot on managing people. What are the most important actions a leader can take in the first 90 days with a new team?
COLLEEN: One of the main reasons teams fail is because people on the team don’t like each other. Or, because one or two team members are difficult to get along with. You can have a team of individual superstars, but unless everyone’s been trained in conflict resolution, and how to communicate effectively, it can result in chaos. The leader needs to set boundaries for what is acceptable behavior. Otherwise, you can have someone who is what I call “high-performance, high maintenance.” They can wreak havoc on a team. Remember, there’s no “I” in the word team.

LISA: When you see outstanding managers and leaders, what are they doing that is different from the pack?
COLLEEN: A lot of managers and leaders are promoted to leadership positions based on their “hard skills” or technical skills. They were promoted because they were doing a good job. But they’ve never been trained in communication, conflict resolution, and managing people. Yet, now they’re managing people! So, I notice the most successful leaders are those with strong social skills. They possess good interpersonal skills. They’re excellent communicators and good listeners. They understand the importance of acknowledgment even if they’re not always in agreement. They’re good role models who practice what they preach. They know how to motivate others. Most importantly, they’re honest.

LISA: You’re a cancer survivor. Give us three practical, easy tips for celebrating life today.
COLLEEN: 1) Focus on what you have, not on what you don’t have. 2) Spend time each day doing something nice for someone else. It gets your mind off yourself. 3. Try to be in a line of work you enjoy because life is short. Work is a four-letter word. Passion isn’t.

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If you want to hear more, she is available for keynotes, breakout sessions and seminars by calling 800.323.0683 or emailing Colleen directly. Visit her website for free articles, new video clips, or to sign up for her e-newsletter. You can find Masters of Success on her website as well.

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Web 2.0, Direct From the Netherlands

Ayman Van BregtEveryone I know is trying something new on Facebook or LinkedIn.  Still, there’s so much more to know about social media, social networks and other Web 2.0 connectivity.  Ayman Van Bregt, an expert on new media, shares innovative topics in this interview that all MBAs need to know about.  He owns a consultancy that focuses on marketing, entrepreneurship, innovation, and new media. 

LISA: Tell us about digital natives.  What defines this group, and what can we learn from them?
AYMAN: Most of your readers will probably be defined as digital immigrants. I think this directly makes clear what digital natives are, they all have ‘digital’(referring to digital language of computers, the web etc.) as their native language. People that want to get in depth details should read Marc Prensky’s paper.

What you can learn from digital natives depends on your goals I would say but there are some mainstream paradigm shifts we can see clearly. I think these changes are very important from an employers’ perspective.

Training digital natives means changing methodology. Not a serial learning process (step-by-step) but more parallel learning processes giving trainees the opportunity to use a toolbox of options to shape their own learning process. The generation is very critical and sensitive because of their behavior online. Focus on democratized tools and use these principles to reach out to them with honest interest. They need to get things placed in the right context otherwise they will not consume your message. Next to that research their behavior concerning multitasking and multi devices so it’s easier to stay connected with them and tune in.

LISA: What web 2.0 applications should we know about that are not popular in the mainstream?
AYMAN: A generic answer for this question is quite impossible. The web belongs to all of us and that means we all have specific wishes and needs. Web 2.0 applications make it easier to fulfill these needs but in the end they are only tools. If your product is not perceived as a true solution for a need your web 2.0 strategy will be hollow and not successful. Even worse, it will make you even more transparent and damage your brand.

Looking at the positive side, some strategic issues can help you in the Web 2.0 era. Web 2.0 is about social structures because we all look for people with common ground and the web makes the world small and easy to find those. Creating ambassadors for your brand with these structures costs less and spreads more quickly than ever! Economical values are rapidly changing and traditional business models are being overrun on the web.

As an example crowdsourcing is an interesting trend at the moment. The crowd is used to fund initiatives such as My Football Club and of course Obama crowdsourced his election very successful. My advice would be to get your top customers involved and connect to their tools (only when you can truly add value).

LISA: Let’s talk about social networks.  How can business people benefit from participating in communities like LinkedIn, Facebook, and Bebo?
AYMAN: Social networks and social media are everywhere. It can be very tiring because once you get involved in a network, your network starts inviting you for all kinds of other platforms. Even though there are a lot of advantages you can benefit from. You can easily add people in your current network and see what people they know. The way of doing business is changing online.

Normally you would visit a network meeting and talk with strangers and try to find out what common ground you have and if there are things that might be beneficial for both of you. Online you have far more information so you can easily personalize better and when approaching people your success rate increases enormously because their online presence implicates they are open for proposals.

Other benefits are your online reputation and visibility on search engines and the web and last but not least finding new staff.

LISA: Many of us know about open source software such as Mozilla.  Help us learn more about open innovation in business.  How does the concept reach into business communications and problem solving?
AYMAN: The open source was the forerunner of the crowdsourcing trend. Dell for instance has launched ideastorm. Ideastorm gives customers a platform to discuss products and services of Dell and gives Dell a basket full of opportunities.

Opportunities to better understand customers’ needs, opportunities to repair complaints and create satisfied customers. The most important thing is that this platform gives Dell inspiration for product and service development which is what open innovation is about. Check this document for more information on open innovation.

LISA: Our group loves global business, and you’re based in Rotterdam.  Teach us something unique about the culture in The Netherlands
AYMAN: The Netherlands have a long history in doing international business which they tend to boast. During the 60’s the Netherlands had a shortage of staff and a lot of immigrants came to the country and looking at the society there is a real multicultural mix. Rotterdam has over 170 different nationalities in a city of in total around 650,000 inhabitants with the second biggest harbor in the world. These trading skills combined with their liberal thinking and the fact most of them communicate very direct makes them unique.

Of course a lot of people find it difficult to get used to this kind of approach but with the common sense behavior of the Dutch and normally a delivery of what’s promised we are seen often internationally. Due to our history we have learned easily to adapt to other cultures and circumstances with high reliability. Mainstream we only highly value the democratic way of working and direct communication. Conflicts therefore arise when we have to cope with much hierarchy and people beating around the bush.


To see more from Ayman, check out these live presentations

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Hints From Hiring Managers: Land Your Dream Job in 2009

Inspired by Tim Murphy’s comment on what’s most important to hiring managers, I conducted a poll.   The funny thing is that graduating at the top of the class and coming from a prestigious business school doesn’t do much for hiring managers after you’re in the door for an interview.

The top four ways to impress executives are simpler than you might think.

1. Do your homework. Be prepared for questions about the job and the company.  If you can’t articulate your value to them, you don’t know enough.  One hiring manager said that if she asks a candidate why he wants to work for their company and doesn’t get any substance, they’re cut.

2. Focus on interpersonal skills. While this is a lifelong journey of skill building, don’t overlook it in the moment.  Most hiring managers care more about your fit with the company, the job, and the team than they do about your MBA.  Be genuine.  Prepare examples of situations when you overcame conflict with a team you’ve worked with in the past.

3. Apply it. Josh Chernin, Harvard MBA and hiring manager, said his top factors are interpersonal competence, and whether you can take on any project and figure out how to generate results.   To Josh, it is great to see the body of knowledge and discipline that comes with earning an MBA.  Nonetheless, the ability to apply it in a practical business situations speaks loudest.

4. Avoid name dropping. In this case, the name that you don’t want to drop too often is “MBA”.  Recruiters tire of hearing “when I was working on my MBA…” to open up every response.  Mix up your answers to include projects you completed inside and outside of the classroom.  Be careful to not alienate a recruiter who thinks you’re trying to add a bragging opportunity as a replacement for substance.

The common thread in these tips is that an MBA is job requirement that helps companies screen resumes.  After your resume makes it to the “go stack,” your in-person interactions will decide the rest.

Good luck landing the job of your dreams.

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Speak With Confidence

1o Days to More Confident Public Speaking book

When I got the opportunity to interview Lenny Laskowski, I knew it would strike a chord with the members of the International Association of MBAs.


Lenny, a former engineer, learned how to turn his analytical side into a competitive advantage.  Now he’s the president of LJL Seminars, and he teaches public speaking all over the world.  Whether your next presentation is in a boardroom or convention center, Lenny has suggestions for every situation.


LISA: What most commonly gets in the way of confident public speaking?

LENNY: We are usually our own worst obstacle. Public speaking is a learned skill and most people do not prepare enough and do not practice / rehearse enough for our presentations or speeches. The way to become more confident with public speaking is to speak as much as we can, but learn to properly prepare ourselves. Many people wait until the last minute (wait too long) to start preparing and usually rush to put together their presentations.


Most people also tend to approach public speaking as a performance. You are better to approach public speaking situations as a conversation. Just learn to have a conversation with the audience. We all have conversations every day and the sooner we learn to apply our everyday experiences to our more formal speaking situations, the more confident we will become.


LISA: Can you tell us a couple of your favorite speaking tips?

LENNY: When people ask me what is the #1 TIP I could provide, I always say to just learn to have a conversation with your audience.

  • Do not approach your speeches or presentations as a performance.
  • Do practice several times before the actual presentation day.
  • Do not use too many visual aids.

LISA: You do video coaching to help people become better speakers. If someone records himself as a self-study, what are a few things to look for?

LENNY: The first time you watch your own video, first turn down the sound and just watch what you do with your hands, head and entire body. Take notes and write down any distracting mannerisms.


The second time, turn off the picture (or turn around) and listen to your voice. Write down what you like and dislike about your voice. Do you have any verbal habits you need to address – repeating such words as Uh, Uhm, Ya Know… etc.


LISA: Many of our MBA readers are entrepreneurs or want to launch a consulting business. How did you decide on your niche, and what was your process for defining your unique selling proposition?

LENNY: When considering starting a business, you should build and develop a business on skills that you know or expertise from your past. What skills do you possess that other people would be willing to pay you for to learn? Study, read and become an expert on what you do. People want to hire experts and not a jack-of-all-trades. My unique selling point (USP) is the fact that I was a former engineer who teaches people how to become better speakers and presenters. What’s unique about this is that most engineers are not generally know as good speakers, but I worked at it constantly improved my skills and learned how to teach and coach others.


My National Best Selling Book, “10 Days to More Confident Public Speaking” the #1 best selling book on the market to day on public speaking. It is know in its 8th printing. I have worked with all types of professionals, both men and women, engineers, priests, ministers, teachers, CEOs and engineers. Each of these groups of professionals offers unique challenges. Having worked with a large array of speakers has allowed me to expand my ability to work with all types of speakers and presenters.

LISA: You have clients in 178 countries, which is exciting for our global group. Tell us a few techniques for becoming a quick study of a new culture.

LENNY: I would recommend purchasing a copy of the book Kiss, Bow or Shake Hands by Terri Morrision. This book provides business and etiquette tips on the top 60 countries around the world. There is even a version specifically for women, since the rules for women are different in many countries.

Also check out websites and even ask your clients for advice and what to watch for and be careful about. Learn about both the social cultures and business cultures before you travel and work in other countries.

If you would like to hear more from Lenny, consider booking him at your next event or grab the book 10 Days to More Confident Public Speaking. Your audience will thank you for it.  You can also visit Lenny’s website for more FREE speaking tips.

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